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April 30, 2026 · Live Q&A 1h 32m

HVAC Price Fixing Lawsuit Deep Dive + Proven Business Strategies for Contractors

21-year HVAC veteran Michael James Johnson breaks down the price fixing lawsuit against Trane and Carrier, the 454B refrigerant crisis, monthly pricing strategy, and the boots-on-the-ground marketing that beats private equity.

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Who's on this episode

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Guest

Michael James Johnson

Owner, The AC Man · HVAC Business Coach · Fayetteville, NC

Air Force veteran and 21-year HVAC pro who started The AC Man in 2005. Author of The Profit Playbook and coach to contractors building profitable, lifestyle-friendly shops.

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Host

Willie Ward

Owner, GOAT Heating & Cooling · HVAC IS LIFE Founder · Charlotte, NC

Charlotte HVAC owner and founder of the HVAC IS LIFE community. Hosts the HVAC IS LIFE Podcast and co-hosts the weekly Live Q&A for contractors nationwide.

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Host

Mark Cantrell

Owner, Upward Bound Media · HVAC Marketing · 15+ years experience

Residential and light commercial HVAC pro turned marketer. Runs Upward Bound Media, helping contractors win local search and turn their websites into a real pipeline.

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  1. [7:04]The HVAC Price Fixing Lawsuit: What Contractors Need to Know
  2. [10:44]The 454B Refrigerant Crisis: Worse Than COVID
  3. [14:20]Pricing Strategy: Stop Losing Money With Outdated Price Books
  4. [17:04]High-Ticket Sales: The Art of the $30,000 Conversation
  5. [20:55]The Four-Option Approach: Never Present Just One Price
  6. [37:42]Why New Construction is "A Waste of Time and Money"
  7. [43:04]Growing Intentionally vs. Growing at All Costs
  8. [51:33]Supply Chain Reality: Brazing Rods, Capacitors & QC
  9. [59:25]Marketing That Actually Works: Boots on the Ground
  10. [1:20:41]Facebook Ads: The "Eighth Wonder of the World" for HVAC
  11. [1:27:00]Final Advice for HVAC Business Owners

The HVAC Price Fixing Lawsuit: What Contractors Need to Know

The HVAC industry is facing unprecedented legal scrutiny with two major class action lawsuits targeting manufacturers for alleged price fixing. This isn't just industry drama — it could mean real money back in contractors' pockets.

  • Berg vs. Bosch targets consumer pricing across 30 states, focusing on end-user overcharges
  • Ism vs. Trane addresses direct manufacturer-to-contractor pricing collusion
  • Both suits allege manufacturers coordinated price increases instead of competing, eliminating the "price anchor" in the market
  • Trane's CEO publicly discussed maintaining "pricing discipline" and achieving 20% higher profits than ever before
  • Coverage extends beyond A2L transition issues to the broader pattern of coordinated pricing since 2018–2019

"When one company raises prices and another says 'you're going to raise your price with me so nobody can do anything,' there's no longer a price anchor, no longer competition — and that's the problem."

Mark Cantrell

Actionable Takeaway

Keep all your invoices from 2018 onward. You don't need to act yet, but when these cases develop you'll need documentation of what you paid for equipment to potentially receive compensation.

Read the full HVAC price-fixing class action breakdown

The 454B Refrigerant Crisis: Worse Than COVID

The transition to A2L refrigerants created what multiple contractors called a crisis worse than COVID for the supply chain. Despite industry leaders claiming preparation, the rollout exposed severe problems.

  • 454B refrigerant prices jumped to $1,500+ per jug with strict purchase limits (one jug per contractor)
  • Manufacturers shipped condensers empty or 1–3 pounds low on refrigerant
  • Industry claimed to be "the most prepared ever" weeks before the crisis hit
  • 2021 supply chain shortages caused price increases that never came back down
  • Contractors had to pull out "trash" equipment that wasn't ready for market — with no manufacturer reimbursement

"They were putting out machines that weren't ready. They were trash. They were garbage. A lot of us contractors were blowing money pulling out machines that were useless."

Michael James Johnson

Actionable Takeaway

Diversify your refrigerant suppliers and maintain strategic inventory. Build relationships with multiple supply houses to avoid being caught in single-source shortages.


Pricing Strategy: Stop Losing Money With Outdated Price Books

One of the most critical business mistakes contractors make is updating prices too infrequently. When supply costs increase every two weeks but you change prices once a quarter or once a year, your margin evaporates.

  • Contractors report price increases from suppliers arriving "every day, not just every other day"
  • Most contractors still change prices only once per quarter or once per year
  • Price quotes are now valid for one day rather than a traditional 30-day window
  • Fear and emotion prevent contractors from raising prices to match costs
  • Software like House Call Pro allows one-click percentage increases to match supplier letters

"If your prices from the supply house are going up once every two weeks and you're changing your price once a quarter, you're losing money hand and fist. You can't have a price that's lower than what you're paying."

Michael James Johnson

Actionable Takeaway

Implement monthly price reviews. When you receive a price increase notice from your supplier, immediately adjust your pricing by the same percentage. Use your software's bulk adjustment features to update all line items at once.


High-Ticket Sales: The Art of the $30,000 Conversation

When HVAC replacements jumped from $6,000 to $20,000–$40,000, the sales process had to evolve. You can't sell a system like you're selling a candy bar — customers need time, education, and trust.

  • Modern systems are major household investments requiring slower, more thoughtful presentations
  • Contractors must become trusted advisors like doctors — diagnosing and prescribing, not pitching
  • The hospital analogy: doctors don't quote prices upfront, they diagnose symptoms and prescribe solutions
  • Mentally rehearse the call as if you were advising your own family
  • Get past the initial "no" to understand real objections, then overcome them with education

"When you go to the hospital, they're 100% selling you. You think they're treating you. They're selling. You're going to leave with a $20,000 medical bill. But they never say 'this is going to be $10,000.' They say 'these are your symptoms, you need this.' We have to be advisers."

Michael James Johnson

Actionable Takeaway

Before every sales call ask yourself: "If this were my sister, brother, or parent, how would I walk them through this decision?" That mindset shift transforms you from salesperson to trusted advisor.

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The Four-Option Approach: Never Present Just One Price

Michael's signature approach ensures every customer gets genuine choice, building trust while maximizing revenue potential. Always present Repair, Good, Better, Best — with a monthly financing payment for each tier.

  • Repair: fix the immediate problem (with caveats about age and condition)
  • Good: basic system that solves the problem affordably
  • Better: mid-tier with improved efficiency and features (typically the recommendation)
  • Best: premium system with maximum efficiency and comfort features
  • Never recommend the top option — recommend the second-best to maintain trust

Actionable Takeaway

Build templated four-option presentations in your CRM with monthly payment calculations (assume 10-year financing) so customers see affordability, not just sticker shock.


Why New Construction is "A Waste of Time and Money"

Michael's hot take: if you're doing new construction HVAC work, drop it yesterday. The math rarely works for an independent shop.

  • Razor-thin margins from lowest-bid contractor selection
  • Keeps crews busy but not profitable — "why be broke and tired at the same time?"
  • No service relationship — builders typically abandon customers after final inspection
  • Poor installation quality from cost-cutting and inexperienced labor
  • Callbacks and warranty work eat whatever small profit existed
  • Exception: custom home builders who value quality and pay accordingly ($60–80K systems in multi-million-dollar homes)

"You're not in business to be busy. You're in business to be profitable. If I'm gonna be broke with no margin, I might as well sit home and watch Star Trek."

Michael James Johnson

Actionable Takeaway

Calculate true hourly profit on new construction versus service and replacement work. Include callbacks, travel, and payment delays. If new construction is lower per hour, transition that capacity to service through marketing.


Growing Intentionally vs. Growing at All Costs

The "revenue pissing contest" trap destroys more HVAC businesses than it helps. A $3M company at 30% margin with reasonable hours beats a $10M company at 5% margin and 80-hour weeks.

  • Owners chase $10M / $20M revenue targets to compete with peers, not for strategic reasons
  • Taking on unprofitable work just to hit arbitrary revenue targets
  • Employee dependency trap: can't drop bad clients because of payroll obligations
  • Growth should align with personal goals — time with family, lifestyle, profit targets
  • Don't sacrifice what you actually want for what you think you're supposed to want

"If I want to get to five million so I can spend more time with my kids, don't get to five million taking on something that takes you away from home. It's not just about the money. It's about what you individually want in your life."

Michael James Johnson

Actionable Takeaway

Write down what you actually want from your business: income, hours, time with family, freedom. Then audit every job type and client relationship against those goals. Cut what doesn't align.


Supply Chain Reality: Brazing Rods, Capacitors & QC

A practical discussion about equipment, materials, and the quality control issues contractors face daily.

  • Brazing rod crisis: 15% silver brazing rods became scarce and expensive — contractors are stockpiling
  • Pro-press fittings emerging as an alternative (still controversial among traditionalists)
  • Capacitor quality concerns: multiple contractors report defective capacitors straight from suppliers
  • Pro tip: test every new capacitor with a meter before installing it (30 seconds, prevents callbacks)
  • Supply house pricing inconsistencies (Johnstone example: $125 for 4 brazing rods = $31.25 each)

Actionable Takeaway

Implement a quality control check for critical components. Test capacitors before install, inspect brazing rods for proper packaging, and verify equipment refrigerant charges before leaving the supply house.


Marketing That Actually Works: Boots on the Ground

Stop throwing money at Google and Zuckerberg. Get into your community.

Michael sponsors a local basketball team and sets up a branded "cooling station" with Gatorade — every parent in the stands sees his logo. A 400-burger / 400-hot-dog community BBQ costs less than one month of Google LSA and builds real relationships.

  • Local sponsorships win — youth sports, community events, branded swag
  • BNI and Chamber of Commerce: private equity isn't there. You should be.
  • Referral systems dominate — homeowners trust family recommendations over any online ad
  • Community BBQs with $500–$800 budgets generate weeks of maintenance bookings
  • Bonus SEO play: branded QR codes that link to Google Business Profile driving directions — high "directions requests" boosts local pack rankings

"Stop making Mark Zuckerberg rich. Give $500 to your local sports team. You go to sleep feeling awesome about yourself. You're not like 'I dropped another 10K on Google LSA today.'"

Mark Cantrell

Actionable Takeaway

Allocate 20% of your marketing budget to local, in-person events. Track customer acquisition cost from these events versus digital ads — local usually wins on both cost and lifetime value.


Facebook Ads: The "Eighth Wonder of the World" for HVAC

Michael's favorite paid channel — but with a warning. Facebook can reach every single person in your town, but only if you know what you're doing.

  • Video ads massively outperform image ads when done correctly
  • Bad video ads perform worse than 100 different image ads — content quality matters more than spend
  • Test organically first: post hundreds of videos, find what hooks viewers in the first 3 seconds
  • Different from Google leads: you're interrupting people's day, not catching active searchers
  • Run separate channels for B2C (homeowners) and B2B (contractors / coaching)

"Facebook ads are the eighth wonder of the world for business in my opinion. You can reach every single person in your town if you know how to run a Facebook ad right."

Michael James Johnson

Actionable Takeaway

If you lack video skills, start with image-based Facebook ads targeted to your service area. Once you've created 50–100 organic videos and identified which styles get engagement, then put ad dollars behind proven formats.


Final Advice for HVAC Business Owners

The average business fails in the first year. Most don't last five. Michael's at 21 — and his closing advice is about competing with yourself, slowing down, and remembering why you started.

  • Compete with who you were yesterday, not the shop down the road
  • Define what you want from the business before chasing a revenue number
  • Treat every customer like family — present every option, recommend the right one
  • Show up where private equity won't: the sideline, the church basement, the BNI chapter

"The only person I'm competing against is myself. I want to be better than I was yesterday. If I'm better than I was yesterday, then I won."

Michael James Johnson

Featured Quotes

"The average business fails in the first year. Most businesses don't last five years. I'm at 21 years, and I hope it'll be another 20."

Michael James Johnson

"Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't lie. Do the math, test the price."

Michael James Johnson

"Private equity is not at the basketball game, not at the Chamber of Commerce meeting, not at the BNI meeting, not passing out flyers. You know who else isn't there? You."

Michael James Johnson

"If you go shake one freaking hand out there, it could make you a million dollars. What's your problem?"

Mark Cantrell

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Air Force veteran and 21-year HVAC pro who started The AC Man in 2005. Author of The Profit Playbook and coach to contractors building profitable, lifestyle-friendly shops.

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